Biblical Trinity - Questions & Answers

3-in-1: Three parts to one individual being or person
– this is the real Biblical Trinity concept.

In order to help clarify the real Biblical Trinity, I will reply to questions here. Please make sure you have read through the study series on the Biblical Trinity first.
[ See Main Study: Jesus (Y'shua) is God in the Flesh - The Real Biblical Trinity ]
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The Catholic concept of 3 persons is obviously wrong. There is only ONE GOD. Is the the God of Israel made up of 3 parts to the same individual being? The Scripture reveals we are made up of 3 parts and I believe it shows God has 3 parts also.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?
Discovering the 3 parts to us by learning the model of 3 parts to God that the Messiah taught, I believe he is teaching us to reveal sin (apply God's Law) to all 3 parts of us. Remember: The Messiah said: If you hate your brother you have committed the sin of murder "in your heart." AND If you lust after a married woman, you have committed the sin of adultery "in your heart."

God in 3 Persons

The classical teaching by traditional churches which originated in the Roman Catholic Church, that the Trinity is 3 persons is completely wrong. There are not 3 individual gods, individuals, beings, or persons. God is one person but as this study reveals: God is made up of 3 parts to himself - one individual being. We are made in his likeness and we also have 3 parts to how we were made, yet we are only one individual person or being.

Jesus (Y'shua) never said, "I am 3 in 1" or "I am 3 parts."

Answer: Jesus (Y'shua) taught "the Father" was God, unseen and no one ever heard his voice. Jesus (Y'shua) claimed to be God (that is why they crucified him: for blasphemy). Jesus (Y'shua) taught the Holy Spirit would come from the Father. Paul taught that no one knows a person more than their own spirit.

Is Jesus (Y'shua) the Father?

Jesus (Y'shua) says he does the Will of the Father and does not see himself equal to God.

SHORT ANSWER
Yes and no. Jesus (Y'shua) is not the Father, but the physical expression of the God. Jesus (Y'shua) is the Body of God. The Father is the Will and Heart of God. So yes, Jesus (Y'shua) is the same person as the Father but in the way God works the Body of God (Jesus/Y'shua) is under the authority of the Father.

When you use these terms "the Father" "the Holy Spirit" or "the Son" you are about talking the 3 different parts that make up one whole person, the God of Israel. Theses parts have a designated organization, authority structure, or hierarchy. This is also how we are made up and how we work and operate to since we are made in God's likeness.

The Heart/Center/Will (Father) controls everything. The Spirit which is the mind or intellect communicates the Will. The Body (Jesus/Y'shua) is the doing, action part which does the actual carrying out the Will as communicated by the Spirit/Mind (i.e. the mind controls the body).

LONG ANSWER

Do I let my body run my life? My body gives me feedback, talks to me, and communicates its desires, like when it is hungry. But do I let my body rule over me? We are not supposed to, hence the term "Walking in the Flesh." My body is under my control BUT it is no less a part of me. If you see my body, you have seen me. Interacting with my body is the only way you may get to know me and I with you. But my body is only one part of me.

There is a line of authority. The Heart/Center/Will of God is the Father which controls all of himself. The Holy Spirit is the mind or intellect of God which expresses God's heart/will and controls God's Body (Jesus/Y'shua) and now also us since we are now members of Jesus (Y'shua). Do we now equate ourselves equal with God? No. Because in order to realistically and truly be a part of God's body we cannot because the body takes orders, not gives them.

Jesus (Y'shua) is under the authority of God because he is the body, action, doing part of God - the physical existence and expression of God himself but he is God. This is why, being God, he submits himself to the center/heart/will of God (Father). Jesus (Y'shua) is being the body, under submission, under the control of God's Holy Spirit, "Walking in the Spirit" because that is what the Body of God does - and that is what we must also do.

Because God is eternal, apart from God's Body (Jesus/Y'shua) we have no eternal life. Only by being a part of God's Body do we have eternal life. Walking in the Spirit, the Body of God lives eternal and works and functions and carries out the Will of the Father.

I suggest understanding how Jesus (Y'shua) is a part of God is so important because this reveals to us how we, now a part of God's Body, must also interact and relate and exist with and in God.

If Jesus was God, why did He not know when He would return?

Answer: Speaking of Jesus' (Y'shua) Second Coming, Matthew 24:36 (and Mark 13:32) tells us, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

When Jesus (Y'shua) spoke those words to the disciples, even he had no knowledge of the date and time of his return. Although Jesus (Y'shua) is fully God (John 1:1,14), when he became a man, he voluntarily restricted the use of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2:6–8). He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father (John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated his omniscience on several occasions (John 2:25;3:13), but he voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted him to know during the days of his humanity (John 15:15). Such was the case regarding the knowledge of the date and time of his return. After he was resurrected, Jesus (Y'shua) resumed his full divine knowledge (Matthew 28:18; Acts 1:7).

Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus' (Y'shua) return will be. Verses such as John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28-29; 10:30; 12:49; 14:28, 31; and Matthew 26:39, 42 demonstrate Jesus' (Y'shua) submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead. Yes, they are both God. But some things Jesus (Y'shua) had apparently chosen to "give up the rights" to be privy to during his earthly ministry (see Philippians 2:5-11). Jesus (Y'shua), now exalted in Heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His Second Coming.

Paul wrote in Philippians 2:5-11 (ESV): "Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, (6) who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, (7) but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. (8) And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. (9) Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, (10) so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, (11) and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

BUT the Trinity is Pagan!?

BUT The Trinity is Pagan!

I think the root cause of much confusion within the Messianic / Hebrew Roots Movement is the alleged Trinity-Pagan connection. Many argue that the Trinity concept comes from pagan gods and therefore, in our righteous zeal to rid ourselves (rightly so) of pagan influences, we must also deny the Trinity Doctrine. Based purely upon this idea, we would also have to throw out the doctrine of the resurrection, because there are much more pagan connections to concept of resurrection than to the Trinity.

Okay guys and gals, let’s think about this. The Catholic Trinity Doctrine that states that God is “three persons” but united in purpose and will. This actually suggests that there are three individual persons or gods. As we have seen in this Biblical Trinity Series, Jesus (Y’shua) is the action, body, doing part of God, but the same person – one person – one being – one God. Just because Satan attempted to pollute or counterfeit the Trinity concept and incorporate it into pagan gods does not mean the idea, when taken from Scripture is wrong.

Did Jesus (Y'shua) Pray to Himself?

Did Jesus (Y’shua) Pray to Himself?

The answer is: Yes

Some snicker with laughter and mock the idea that the Messiah prayed to himself, saying that this proves the Messiah and the Father are not the same person.

In light that the Messiah’s entire life was used as our role model so that we can learn how to live and relate to the Father, this does not seem at all implausible. Paul states in Philippians 2:5-8 that Jesus (Y’shua) denied the divine nature side of himself to live a human life like us. I suggest that Jesus (Y’shua) did that exclusively so that we may learn to live like he did, so that we may learn to pray like he prayed, so that we make learn to be faithful and obedient to Torah (the Will of the Father) like he did. To learn to be like our Master, Jesus(Y’shua).